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  • Turkey Neck / Webbing

    So, not hanging related, but may find its way there.

    Does anyone who has turkey necking find that you also have massive turtling? I can't do certain things without very uncomfortable turtling. I want to hang more, by my wife is not a fan. Surgery is an option and she wants me to go see a "specialist" and see if there are other options besides hanging. - surgery.

    I can't sit straight up or squat down or anything that pushes my butt back. I can sit in a slouching position with my hips forward and do fine, but anything where my hips are back is really really uncomfortable. ... not to mention that it's unprofessional and embarrassing to continually grab my dick to pull it out from turtling.

    I mean, I'm around 7 1/2" EL, but this webbing and turtling is getting out of control.

    Help please

    tng

  • #2
    TNG,

    >Does anyone who has turkey necking find that you also have massive turtling? I can't do certain things without very uncomfortable turtling.<

    Well, I regrew my foreskin on purpose. Not sure that is what you mean. I have never heard about turtling being uncomfortable. I might need more information.

    >not to mention that it's unprofessional and embarrassing to continually grab my dick to pull it out from turtling.<

    Well, you can wrap to stay in the extended state, or wrap to stretch out the bottom shaft skin. Not sure that is what you mean.

    Then, you can hang in such a way that you do not stretch much skin. Not sure how close you are to your goals. But you can do upper angle work, continue to deform the tunica, and be less likely to stretch skin.

    I guess I just need more information.

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    • #3
      Maybe I'm confusing turtling with something else all together. My shaft goes inside my pelvis - if that makes sense not like having foreskin... it's like my fat pad eats my penis. lol. It's is very uncomfortable to me. I'm always having to fish it out in order for it to not feel uncomfortable.

      Ive shed wraps I feel that's, both ace as well as a silicone tube. They work just fine, I'm just not trying to wear one all the time.

      My goal is at least 1 more inch. I've been doing btc because I have a high exit as well as a 10 or so tugback.

      My question was primarily asking about the connection, if any, between turkey neck and having my penis go back into my fat pad.

      Staying in an extended state would be awesome... is that one of the things that hanging can do?

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      • #4
        TNG,

        >Maybe I'm confusing turtling with something else all together. My shaft goes inside my pelvis - if that makes sense not like having foreskin... it's like my fat pad eats my penis. lol. It's is very uncomfortable to me. I'm always having to fish it out in order for it to not feel uncomfortable.<

        So, did it happen before hanging?

        >My goal is at least 1 more inch. I've been doing btc because I have a high exit as well as a 10 or so tugback.<

        Ah, then the very best thing you can do is hang at the lower angles. My shaft retracted into my body as well before hanging. I had at best a two inch flaccid. Most of the time less. Now, it is 5-7 inches. Maybe not great, still a grower.

        >My question was primarily asking about the connection, if any, between turkey neck and having my penis go back into my fat pad.<

        No, that is not it. But, you can wrap for stretching the bottom shaft skin, and that will also help or solve the retraction.

        >Staying in an extended state would be awesome... is that one of the things that hanging can do?<

        You need hanging to break down the tissues to start. In the next hanging session, adhesions will be pulled out. So staying extended is not needed for gains. But, in your situation, wrapping to stretch bottom shaft skin, will help with turkey neck, and be more comfortable.

        OK, this is very simple, once you learn to do it correctly...Wrap the entire shaft for hanging. On the last pass, at the base, you will make the tension on the wrap stronger. When you wrapped you should have been pulling the skin back toward the base with each pass. Then after the wrap is taped, with the tension on the last pass, hold the wrapped bundle at the base in an OK grip, and pull the scrotal skin out from under the wrap. Repeat pulling the skin out after every set.

        Note: you may be wrapping over scrotal skin. That is fine. Just pull it out from under the wrap. The wrapped bundle should be tight enough at the base, to hold the skin in the stretched state. Over time, this will stretch the bottom shaft skin, and prevent/cure turkey neck.

        You will notice flaking on the bottom shaft skin, scrotal skin, over time, as it stretches.

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        • #5
          Retraction - spot on. I'm a grower to, so you get it. My wrap is good, since I have good girth, I don't make too many passes with threaband. My underwrap is only one to 2 passes max. My theraband is maybe 3-4.

          I have, as you said, pull the skin out towards the shaft when I am done wrapping.

          Thanks for the suggestions and input. Just need to make sure and put in the time.

          Tng

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          • #6
            When to say this... "Note: you may be wrapping over scrotal skin. That is fine. Just pull it out from under the wrap. The wrapped bundle should be tight enough at the base, to hold the skin in the stretched state. Over time, this will stretch the bottom shaft skin, and prevent/cure turkey neck."

            are you talking about both underwrap and theraband or just one of them?

            Oh and to answer your question, I've always had this retraction problem.

            thanks.

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            • #7
              TNG,

              >are you talking about both underwrap and theraband or just one of them?<

              Not sure why you would need an underwrap when wrapping for stretching bottom shaft skin.

              If you mean doing it while hanging also, that is fine, and you would pull the skin back from the entire wrapped bundle. Or maybe I do not understand the question.

              >Oh and to answer your question, I've always had this retraction problem.<

              Then, stretching the ligs, hanging at the lower angles, is your fix.

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              • #8
                We're you talking about just using theraband as a wrap to stretch the bottom shaft skin? If so... I already have a lot of skin they - but I guess that's scrotal skin, so not the same, right. How do you wrap for just stretching the skin? Same as wrap for hanging, but only with theraband? Just trying to understand.

                When wrapping for hanging I do try and trap all the way down... but don't really make it a point. I just wrap so the hanger can grasp. I'll be more aware of slwrappjng as far down the shaft as possible so I can get the skin to stretch on my lower shaft. Also, I have had issues with the top of my shaft having pain from skin stretch. So I'll have to deal with that too. Lol

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                • #9
                  TNG,

                  >We're you talking about just using theraband as a wrap to stretch the bottom shaft skin?<

                  Yes. It holds the skin in the stretched position much better than with an underwrap.

                  >If so... I already have a lot of skin they - but I guess that's scrotal skin, so not the same, right.<

                  Right. When hanging at the lower angles, the skin on the top and sides get stretched. But the bottom shaft skin simply borrows skin from the scrotum, while hanging. So, you must stretch that separately.

                  >How do you wrap for just stretching the skin? Same as wrap for hanging, but only with theraband? Just trying to understand.<

                  Same as above. It says for hanging, and you can do that also. But you do not have to be hanging to get the benefit.

                  OK, this is very simple, once you learn to do it correctly...Wrap the entire shaft. On the last pass, at the base, you will make the tension on the wrap stronger. When you wrapped you should have been pulling the skin back toward the base with each pass. Then after the wrap is taped, with the tension on the last pass, hold the wrapped bundle at the base in an OK grip, and pull the scrotal skin out from under the wrap. Repeat pulling the skin out after every so often.

                  Note: you may be wrapping over scrotal skin. That is fine. Just pull it out from under the wrap. The wrapped bundle should be tight enough at the base, to hold the skin in the stretched state. Over time, this will stretch the bottom shaft skin, and prevent/cure turkey neck.

                  You will notice flaking on the bottom shaft skin, scrotal skin, over time, as it stretches.

                  >Also, I have had issues with the top of my shaft having pain from skin stretch. So I'll have to deal with that too<

                  Put a light coat of Vaseline on the skin where there is irritation. Helps sooth it. Leave it on.

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                  • #10
                    We're you talking about just using theraband as a wrap to stretch the bottom shaft skin? If so... I already have a lot of skin they - but I guess that's scrotal skin, so not the same, right. How do you wrap for just stretching the skin? Same as wrap for hanging, but only with theraband? Just trying to understand.

                    When wrapping for hanging I do try and trap all the way down... but don't really make it a point. I just wrap so the hanger can grasp. I'll be more aware of slwrappjng as far down the shaft as possible so I can get the skin to stretch on my lower shaft. Also, I have had issues with the top of my shaft having pain from skin stretch. So I'll have to deal with that too. Lol

                    tng

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                    • #11
                      TNG,

                      I answered this above.

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                      • #12
                        Ok, seems to be working pretty good.

                        a couple of things. Do I have to wrap all the way to the gland or the 1" from it? It seems that if it's not tight enough the theraband goes over my gland. But if I wrap too tight it goes numb.

                        How long should I wear it because it can tell it's working.

                        Do do I need to take breaks or is 20 mins with a break, like hanging good. Or do I just wear it all day and take breaks when needed.

                        Thanks for input. This retractions and turkey neck is not fun!

                        Tng

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                        • #13
                          TNG;,

                          >a couple of things. Do I have to wrap all the way to the gland or the 1" from it? It seems that if it's not tight enough the theraband goes over my gland. But if I wrap too tight it goes numb.<

                          No, You start the wrap just as you would for hanging. Normal range is .5 to 1.5 inches behind the coronal ridge. Then you wrap to the base.

                          >How long should I wear it because it can tell it's working.<

                          After you learn how to do it properly, and get the right tension, you can do it as much as you can stand. The key is to watch for edema. You want to be able to hang your next session, without starting out with edema.

                          >Do do I need to take breaks or is 20 mins with a break, like hanging good. Or do I just wear it all day and take breaks when needed.<

                          Take breaks when needed. You do not have to do 20 minute sets. Watch to make sure you have circulation, and manage edema.

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                          • #14
                            Bib,

                            Another question.

                            Im thinking of using a stretcher a work, I've had succsss in the past using it to stretch skin so I thought, hey, why not.

                            Im not able to hang nearly as often as I want, and I thought using a stretcher would be a great supplement to hanging. I'm planing on doing most of my stretching in the up position to help with the turkey neck.

                            I've had the hanger for years. Just don't have the privacy to hang the required 10 hours. I'm lucky to get 1/2 that.

                            What are are your thoughts of hanging and stretching. Hanging at night when I can and stretching during the day?

                            thanks

                            Tng

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                            • #15
                              TNG,

                              >What are are your thoughts of hanging and stretching. Hanging at night when I can and stretching during the day?<

                              I have never done it, so I cannot give any advice from experience. I have not heard of a great deal of success with using an extender.

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