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  • #46
    Re: Mirror and Palpation Tests

    Thanks Bib. That is basically what I was thinking and envisioning.

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    • #47
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      Guys,

      Following is a link to the thread about mirror test pics. Some good discussion about what to look for. There are many pics on the site linked in that thread.

      If you have any questions, just ask there or here. There might be better. Pond or pool, pool or pond.

      Crap, forgot the link,

      viewtopic.php?f=6&t=514

      Many thanks to RB for finding it.

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      • #48
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        If you can offer any assistance I would greatly appreciate it. I am having trouble knowing how to proceed based on the information I gained from the mirror, palpatation and LOT tests. The Mirror test seems to show I have a medium to low LOT. I have about 1/2" to 3/4" from the bottom of gronal line. The Palpatation test shows about 1 1/2" from the bottom of the pubic bone to skin exit. I also have an LOT of about 8:00. I am not sure what type of hanging would be best? Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated. I have heard of many who were frustrated by wasted hours of hanging at the wrong angles or using the wrong method. Not having much private time I want to maximize it as much as I am able. Your suggestions and input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a ton.

        Thicker

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        • #49
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          Thicker,

          >The Mirror test seems to show I have a medium to low LOT. I have about 1/2" to 3/4" from the bottom of gronal line.<

          Not quite sure what that means. Where is the skin exit point of the shaft in relation to the intersection of the two groinal grooves? If the skin exit point is a half or three quarter inch below that intersection, you are in porn star range. It would mean no potential for gains from lig stretch, a six LOT, and almost no distance between the bottom of the pubic bone and the skin exit point.

          >The Palpatation test shows about 1 1/2" from the bottom of the pubic bone to skin exit. I also have an LOT of about 8:00.<

          I assume you are very thin? If you do not have any fat pad, then the 1.5 inches would about correlate with and LOT of 8.

          >I am not sure what type of hanging would be best? Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.<

          Just based on the LOT and palpation tests, you have potential for gains from lig stretch. You need to hang at the lower angles, working down to BTC. You should make gains from lig stretch for a while. When gains begin to slow, you need to redo the tests, and see where you stand. If then, you have little potential for further gains from lig stretch, you need to move on to tunica work, using especially the RSDT fulcrum. Begin adding RSDT sets, while lowering BTC sets over time.

          >I have heard of many who were frustrated by wasted hours of hanging at the wrong angles or using the wrong method. Not having much private time I want to maximize it as much as I am able.<

          That is exactly what this is all about.

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          • #50
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            Thank you Bib. I appreciate your help. Being NEw her I confess to be somewhat confused with the abbreviations :? Is there a glossary anywhere. Some of them I can easily parse, others I am guessing. Thank you again.

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            • #51
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              Thicker,

              I am not organized enough to make a glossary. I was kind of hoping someone else would do it someday.

              Just ask if you come across something you cannot get.

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              • #52
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                Link to some of the terms:

                viewtopic.php?f=2&t=667

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                • #53
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                  Palpation test tip:

                  For guys that have placed their fingers within a vagaina, if you lift up your hand, you should easily be able to feel the bottom of the pubic bone. This should give you a bit of an idea what it feels like on you.

                  Follow the inner shaft down the hard face of the pubic bone, until you can push in a bit next to the shaft, and find softer tissue.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Mirror and Palpation Tests

                    I just have a question about the palpation test. I've found the end of the pubic bone but am not sure how to measure from there to the 'skin exit point'. Where should I measure? Do I just place my finger where the pubic bone ends and measure where the shaft exits the skin or something else.

                    I've done the other test and it seems like I have a lot of about 7:30 or 8 and from the mirror test it seems I have a mid to low exit point.

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                    • #55
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                      Niz,

                      >I just have a question about the palpation test. I've found the end of the pubic bone but am not sure how to measure from there to the 'skin exit point'. Where should I measure? Do I just place my finger where the pubic bone ends and measure where the shaft exits the skin or something else.<

                      That is exactly correct. From the bottom of the pubic bone, to the skin exit point.

                      >I've done the other test and it seems like I have a lot of about 7:30 or 8 and from the mirror test it seems I have a mid to low exit point.<

                      Measure the inner penis on the palpation test, and see if it confirms the other two. From your LOT and mirror tests, it appears you have some potential for gains from lig stretch, and need to hang BTC, at least for a while.

                      Be sure to put all of this information in your personal thread.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Mirror and Palpation Tests

                        I measured my inner penis and its 2.75 inches. To get that measurement I found the end of my pubic bone with a finger, eyeballed the point where my finger and exit point line up and then used a ruler.

                        I wrap with only theraband starting right below the head and make it a little snug. Also, I make sure to pull back as much skin as possible. I used to wrap tighter but noticed some pain on the left side of my shaft. I usually attach the hanger at the end of the wrap closet to the base because the instructions from the site said to avoid attachment below the head cause of nerve bundles. Right now I currently use 11lbs and it tends to slide a little bit even though I try to make it pretty tight.

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                        • #57
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                          Niz,

                          >I measured my inner penis and its 2.75 inches. To get that measurement I found the end of my pubic bone with a finger, eyeballed the point where my finger and exit point line up and then used a ruler.<

                          OK, that does not mesh with an LOT of 8 and a low to medium exit point. You need to work on the tests, do them again, and see if you can reconcile the numbers. 2.75 inches would probably be an LOT of 9 or above, and above a medium exit point.

                          If you want to send me mirror pics, I will tell you the mirror test results. Be sure the camera is at groin level.

                          I wrap with only theraband starting right below the head and make it a little snug.<

                          No. Start the wrap at least 1.25 inches behind the coronal ridge. A little snug is OK. But if you get any fluid buildup, the wrap is too tight.

                          >Also, I make sure to pull back as much skin as possible.<

                          Good.

                          >I usually attach the hanger at the end of the wrap closet to the base because the instructions from the site said to avoid attachment below the head cause of nerve bundles.<

                          If you start the wrap 1.25 inches behind the coronal ridge, that will not be a problem. Attach the hanger a quarter inch behind the LEADING edge of the wrap.

                          >Right now I currently use 11lbs and it tends to slide a little bit even though I try to make it pretty tight.<

                          That could be because of how you are wrapping and attaching the hanger. Get those right, then let me know how it works.

                          All of this information should be in your personal thread. I suggest you copy and paste this there for future reference.

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                          • #58
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                            should you be standing or sitting when you are doing the lot test

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                            • #59
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                              jaffo,

                              >should you be standing or sitting when you are doing the lot test<

                              For the LOT test, standing would probably be more accurate. Someone once wrote that doing it next to a wall, with a light behind you, might be best. Casting a shadow on the wall. I never heard anymore about it.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Mirror and Palpation Tests

                                Hello can you help me to choose which Hanging angles are good for potencial lenght gains..
                                i did the tests and my results are
                                LOT test:6:40-7:00-7:30 = i can't tell exactly
                                Mirror test :medium to high exit point
                                Palpation test:between 3.1 and 3.5inches is this possible? :O
                                GOAL 9.5x6 BPEL

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