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  • #31
    Thanks Bib,
    the reason why i send you the picture is simple. I hope you understand better now what i have meant with how to stretch the penis out when doing the LOT test.
    I stretch my penis out like the guy in the drawing! Im gripping below the glans exactly like you can see in the drawing.

    Is this the right way to do the test?
    As i said before when Im only grapping the glans, i got an higher LOT.

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    • #32
      PC,

      >Is this the right way to do the test?<

      As long as the skin is not tight when you stretch, that is fine. But it is easier, and probably more accurate, just to grasp the head between thumb and forefinger. You do not need a great stretch.

      >As i said before when Im only grapping the glans, i got an higher LOT.<

      At whatever angle the tugback begins to lessen, that is your LOT. That is when the ligs begin to interfer with the stretch.

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      • #33
        Re: Bib's LOT Theory : A must-read

        I found this diagram made by Bib, very helpful for understanding what the LOT theory shows us
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        • #34
          Re: Bib's LOT Theory : A must-read

          Kran,

          Thanks a lot.

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          • #35
            Re: Bib's LOT Theory : A must-read

            Ok, so as the user kran has posted- I saw in the picture what you mean by low and high LOT- the upper your penis exits the body the higher the LOT and therefore the lower the penis exits the body the lower the LOT. The subjects that had high LOT short and tough ligaments gained more and the subjects that had low LOT long and loose ligaments gained less. The high LOT group would gain best if they hang/stretch at low angles and the low LOT group would gain best if they hang/stretch at high angles. Is what I got right or I am mistaking somewhere?

            And ok- I think I got the theory (if it is what I wrote above), how exactly do I determine what my LOT is (because I saw you were referring to some numbers- how do I determine what my number is)?

            And another thing- through the mirror test people can see how high their ligs are, but how is it possible to determine whether the ligs are tight and short or not?

            P.S- Sorry for asking stupid questions, but this really confuses me.

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            • #36
              Re: Bib's LOT Theory : A must-read

              IwantGains,

              >The high LOT group would gain best if they hang/stretch at low angles and the low LOT group would gain best if they hang/stretch at high angles. Is what I got right or I am mistaking somewhere?<

              Any guy needs to fully stretch out his ligs before he begins tunica work. That means hanging at the lower angles until he has an LOT of about 6, low skin exit point, about an inch of inner penis.

              >And ok- I think I got the theory (if it is what I wrote above), how exactly do I determine what my LOT is (because I saw you were referring to some numbers- how do I determine what my number is)?<

              The LOT test thread link is imbedded in the mirror and palpation test thread.

              >And another thing- through the mirror test people can see how high their ligs are, but how is it possible to determine whether the ligs are tight and short or not?<

              If their skin exit point is high, the ligs will be tight and short.

              >P.S- Sorry for asking stupid questions, but this really confuses me.<

              Just do a lot of reading. It is all here, and discussed many many times.

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              • #37
                I've done PE (no hanging tho) and have a very LOW LOT, like 6 a klock. I dont know what I started with tho.Is this "good or bad"?

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                • #38
                  Swapzor,

                  >I've done PE (no hanging tho) and have a very LOW LOT, like 6 a klock. I dont know what I started with tho.Is this "good or bad"?<

                  First, you need to confirm. What are the results of your other two tests?

                  If you do have a low LOT, it is not good or bad. It just means you will need to go to tunica work, using the RSDT fulcrum, and OTS, both with and without a fulcrum.

                  Tunica gains are generally slower than gains from lig stretch. But they are not limited.

                  Realize that you cannot start out with tunica work. You will need to condition your soft tissues, and work up to where you can handle 20 lbs or more.

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                  • #39
                    Just to clarify, is the LOT when you lost the tugback a 100% or when its diminished so much its nearly gone? Mine starts to fade away alot after 8 and is prob gone around 7-7:30 but its also gone at 6 ofc. Im reading about the other tests and will figure them out also.

                    If my LOT is low, those exercise you describe, are they done with the BiBhanger or is it no point in buying it? Thanks for the response

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                    • #40
                      Swapzor,

                      >Just to clarify, is the LOT when you lost the tugback a 100% or when its diminished so much its nearly gone? Mine starts to fade away alot after 8 and is prob gone around 7-7:30 but its also gone at 6 ofc. Im reading about the other tests and will figure them out also.<

                      Your LOT is when you first see a reduction in tugback. That is when the ligs first begin to engage. So yours appears to be somewhere above 8.

                      >If my LOT is low, those exercise you describe, are they done with the BiBhanger or is it no point in buying it?<

                      I have no idea what you mean. As I said above, LOT only determines what you will spend the most time doing, over the months.

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                      • #41
                        Thanks. You said to stress the tunica I could do "... the RSDT fulcrum, and OTS". Are these exercises done with the bib-hanger, or is it something completly diffrent?

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                        • #42
                          Swapzor,

                          >You said to stress the tunica I could do "... the RSDT fulcrum, and OTS". Are these exercises done with the bib-hanger, or is it something completly diffrent?<

                          It sounds like, depending on your other tests, you should be stretching the ligs for a good while.

                          But the RSDT instructions are in the Basics section. OTS is explained in the abbreviations thread, Basics section.

                          All of them use the Bib hanger.

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                          • #43
                            Ok thank you.

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