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  • Bib
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    JH,

    >My dick is longer flacid when I stretch it out straight and down. This is obviously because I have been concentrating on BTC, I think. But when I stretch it to the side, it doesn't stretch out nearly as far. Is this my LOT, and should I be hanging UTL? The same happens a little bit when I stretch it straight up, but not as much.<

    I do not know what you mean by "Is this my LOT". It may be your next limiting factor. The thing is, you are making progress hanging standard BTC. So, if it were me, I would stick to that for now.

    Even if you need to hang UTL to affect the lateral suspensory ligs, you will still be hitting them fairly well hanging standard BTC. If you reach the point where you are having a hard time reaching fatigue, then you can start UTL.

    Bigger

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  • Yssupforetae
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    My dick is longer flacid when I stretch it out straight and down. This is obviously because I have been concentrating on BTC, I think. But when I stretch it to the side, it doesn't stretch out nearly as far. Is this my LOT, and should I be hanging UTL? The same happens a little bit when I stretch it straight up, but not as much.

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  • Bib
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    JH,

    >BTW, has there ever been any report of prostate cancer or other type of illness as a result(or what they thought was a resut) of hanging? I read somewhere tonight, either here or thunders, about a guy that had prostate cancer(not from hanging) and was getting treatment for it. He was asking about the affects hanging would be while getting treated for prostate cancer. It might sound absurd to be worried about something like this, but I just want to be on the safe side.<

    I have never heard or read of anything like that, and cannot think of what the mechanism could possibly be to cause it.

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  • Yssupforetae
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    Originally posted by Bib
    It seems to me that you have only been reaching fatigue for a short while.
    I don't know...I think I may have been reaching fatigue the whole time. I tend to over-do it alot with things like this in my life, and I really didn't know what the correct definition of fatigue was for hanging. I have definitely "always" felt the stretch when hanging, and my dick "does" feel the effects throughout the day-i.e:that "gotcha" zap you spoke about earlier. I think I may have been hanging too much weight in the beggining, and what I thought was fatigue, might be beyond what most hangers consider fatigue. When I have started out at the lower weights,say 10lbs, I definitely feel the fatigue around 7-10 minutes into the hang, but definitely feeling the hang the whole time. And when I get home from work at night,sometimes I start at 7.5 and can't last the whole hang. This is after hanging 3 sets in the morning. I'd say my weight range lately has been 11.25-12.5 for the first day's hang, and then going down the next two sets. And then try again at night at whatever weight I "can" handle...usually a lower one.
    BTW, has there ever been any report of prostate cancer or other type of illness as a result(or what they thought was a resut) of hanging? I read somewhere tonight, either here or thunders, about a guy that had prostate cancer(not from hanging) and was getting treatment for it. He was asking about the affects hanging would be while getting treated for prostate cancer. It might sound absurd to be worried about something like this, but I just want to be on the safe side.

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  • Bib
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    JH,

    >I thought you told me, in an earlier post, to give it 6 weeks of BTC only to see if I gain. ..."Not learning to hang, etc." What do you mean? I asked you if I should do the OTS hang, and you said to give BTC 6 weeks. Maybe I'm understanding you wrong?<

    I simply meant that it requires six solid weeks, reaching fatigue, reducing weights as needed, to be sure whether an angle is effective or not. It seems to me that you have only been reaching fatigue for a short while.

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  • Yssupforetae
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    Originally posted by Bib
    >I will just wait until I measure again to see if I can record a gain. I think March 17 is when I said the next measurment will take place-as per what you said about giving it 6 weeks of only BTC stretching.<

    Six weeks of consistant, dedicated BTC. Not learning to hang, etc.
    I thought you told me, in an earlier post, to give it 6 weeks of BTC only to see if I gain. ..."Not learning to hang, etc." What do you mean? I asked you if I should do the OTS hang, and you said to give BTC 6 weeks. Maybe I'm understanding you wrong?

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  • Bib
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    JH,

    >I still do not understand. What do you mean "SEE" a tugback. When I kegal with weights on, I can feel the weights....just like I were lifting weights or something like that, and can not do as many kegals because of that. I'm sure that still has nothing to do with LOT, I don't know??<

    No. When performing the LOT test, you are not hanging. Just stretching by hand, starting at the 12:00 angle, and moving down the clock face toward six. When you can no longer see a tugback, that is your LOT.


    >I will just wait until I measure again to see if I can record a gain. I think March 17 is when I said the next measurment will take place-as per what you said about giving it 6 weeks of only BTC stretching.<

    Six weeks of consistant, dedicated BTC. Not learning to hang, etc.

    >What have you found were your best ADS techniques/systems.<

    The only thing I used was wrapping.

    >Would you suggest "against" getting PE weights?<

    I have no experience whatsoever with PE weights, so I cannot judge.

    >And how long is the suggested time to do ADS, since wanting to be in the extended state while healing-i.e:how long should it take to heal in extended state so your dick ligs don't retract back<

    It depends on how tough the ADS is on you. For example, if I stayed wrapped too long, I would soon get fluid buildup, which could irritate during my next hanging session. If your ADS does not bother you at all, then leave it as long as you wish.

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  • Yssupforetae
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    Originally posted by Bib
    If when you PC flex, kegal, you do not SEE a tugback, that is the angle at which your ligs take the force of the stretch.
    I still do not understand. What do you mean "SEE" a tugback. When I kegal with weights on, I can feel the weights....just like I were lifting weights or something like that, and can not do as many kegals because of that. I'm sure that still has nothing to do with LOT, I don't know?? I will just wait until I measure again to see if I can record a gain. I think March 17 is when I said the next measurment will take place-as per what you said about giving it 6 weeks of only BTC stretching.

    What have you found were your best ADS techniques/systems. Would you suggest "against" getting PE weights? And how long is the suggested time to do ADS, since wanting to be in the extended state while healing-i.e:how long should it take to heal in extended state so your dick ligs don't retract back

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  • Bib
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    omega,

    >this is all a bit confusing for me, but my erection angle is at about 8:00 and sticks straight out when i pc flex 9:00 (not sure if that makes sense)
    would that mean i will be a hard gainer?<

    No. Why would you think so? EA has nothing to do with LOT.

    >im only looking to gain 1.5 inches so should i have enough to still stretch out?<

    I do not understand the question.

    >also is there ways to fix penile curvature? i have a slight arc with the middle of the shaft higher than the front and the back of the penis, it seems i would get a slight gain from working on that. Im sorry if my posts are a bit annoying but i have trouble understanding right away lol, thanks.<

    Some guys have reported straightening of curves of all types, with corresponding gains.

    JH,

    >this is all very confusing to me, as well. How do I know if I have a loss of tug?<

    If when you PC flex, kegal, you do not SEE a tugback, that is the angle at which your ligs take the force of the stretch.

    >All I can feel when I am hanging is discomfort down there...sometimes a little, sometimes a lot(given the weight amount).<

    I do not know what this means, what relation it has to the LOT test.

    >As per Omega's post, if it "does" have anything to do with it, I am at 90 degrees erect, and about 95-100 when PC flexed.<

    It does not. The LOT test is performed while flaccid.

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  • Yssupforetae
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    Bigger,
    this is all very confusing to me, as well. How do I know if I have a loss of tug? All I can feel when I am hanging is discomfort down there...sometimes a little, sometimes a lot(given the weight amount). As per Omega's post, if it "does" have anything to do with it, I am at 90 degrees erect, and about 95-100 when PC flexed.

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  • omegax228
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    this is all a bit confusing for me, but my erection angle is at about 8:00 and sticks straight out when i pc flex 9:00 (not sure if that makes sense)
    would that mean i will be a hard gainer? im only looking to gain 1.5 inches so should i have enough to still stretch out? also is there ways to fix penile curvature? i have a slight arc with the middle of the shaft higher than the front and the back of the penis, it seems i would get a slight gain from working on that. Im sorry if my posts are a bit annoying but i have trouble understanding right away lol, thanks.

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  • Bib
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    CJ,

    They were posted on MOS, and I think on Thunders as well. But I cannot find them on my hard drive as of now.

    Please hold on a bit, and I will write them up.

    Bigger

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  • Bones
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    Originally posted by Bib
    Also, I need to post the palpation test and mirror test, which I also cannot find. If I forget, remind me to write those up.

    Thanks again,

    Bigger
    You're reminded. I can't wait to hear about these.
    Cj in AR

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  • Bib
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    Gold,

    Thanks very much.

    Bigger

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  • Goldmember
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    I sure can:

    http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/show ... LOT+theory

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