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  • #31
    I have not gotten them to load yet.

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    • #32
      Bigger,

      Apologies for the delay. I resent them. Things have actually been much smoother for me as of late. I started wrapping a bit tighter, which seems to have made a more substantial difference. I no longer feel any sort of deep, behind-the-skin, electrical sensation that I used to. This feels like a sign I can move up in weight, but I'm still trying to get a better understanding of technique, so I'll hold off for a bit.

      The wrap still goes over the head, and the foreskin I have begins to turtle up over the head. While it's annoying to be unable to discern if the hanger is a quarter inch behind the coronal ridge, I've gotten a feel for where it is.

      Couple of dumb questions.

      1. I noticed my skin was very loose while hanging at 2.5, but at 5 pounds it's not. In fact, it's tighter. Is this just due to gravity and higher weight having more downward force, and therefore the skin is dragged further down?

      2. Getting that numbness sensation during the middle of a set with five pounds. Usually occurs around the head/upper shaft region. It's similar to what you describe as your foot falling asleep. The very tip of the head is also purple-ish (though, the area of my head where my foreskin covers it is always the red/normal color). All sensation and red blush color of the head returns as soon as I take the hanger off. Sets are never over 20 minutes. That being said, is this a sign that I need to refine my technique more? What should I be doing differently, if anything at all? The head is flaccid when I hang.

      3. Normally, once I feel the numbness, I take off the hanger and reapply it after 30 seconds of it being off. For example, in a 20 minute set, I hang for the first 10, but get numb in the middle. I then take the hanger off and massage the area for 30 seconds. I reattach the hanger after squeezing excess blood out and finish the remainder of the 10 minutes. Is this ill-advised?

      Thanks as always. Appreciate your guidance and support.

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      • #33
        qwerty12,

        >The wrap still goes over the head, and the foreskin I have begins to turtle up over the head. While it's annoying to be unable to discern if the hanger is a quarter inch behind the coronal ridge, I've gotten a feel for where it is.<

        Yes, you have some tough wrap issues.

        >1. I noticed my skin was very loose while hanging at 2.5, but at 5 pounds it's not. In fact, it's tighter. Is this just due to gravity and higher weight having more downward force, and therefore the skin is dragged further down?<

        Yes. Or most probably.

        >2. Getting that numbness sensation during the middle of a set with five pounds. Usually occurs around the head/upper shaft region. It's similar to what you describe as your foot falling asleep. The very tip of the head is also purple-ish (though, the area of my head where my foreskin covers it is always the red/normal color). All sensation and red blush color of the head returns as soon as I take the hanger off. Sets are never over 20 minutes. That being said, is this a sign that I need to refine my technique more? <

        Yes. The hanger is too close to the head.

        >What should I be doing differently, if anything at all? The head is flaccid when I hang.<

        I have a big list below. You need to tell me what kind of wrap that is. Does not look good.

        >3. Normally, once I feel the numbness, I take off the hanger and reapply it after 30 seconds of it being off. For example, in a 20 minute set, I hang for the first 10, but get numb in the middle. I then take the hanger off and massage the area for 30 seconds. I reattach the hanger after squeezing excess blood out and finish the remainder of the 10 minutes. Is this ill-advised?<

        I would fix my technique rather than stop the set.

        Pictures were good this time.

        I do not know what you are wrapping with, but it does not appear to be substantial enough. Then, it is rather sloppy. It is foremost in importance to get your wrap right.

        Every good wrapped bundle should have these characteristics:

        Enough wrapped shaft to attach the hanger at least a quarter inch behind the leading edge of the wrap, as seen from the side, midline of the shaft.

        If possible, enough wrapped shaft to tape the last pass BEHIND the hanger attachment area.

        ONE pass of wrap at the top, toward the head, then drop back an eighth inch for the next pass, then another eighth inch for the next. This is to prevent a hard edge of wrap pushing against the nerve bundle, on top of the shaft, behind the head.

        Then enough wrapped girth, so that you can make the bottom gap larger than the top gap, when the hanger is very tight. Top teeth almost to slightly meshed.

        Next, the first passes of wrap need to be passive, with little tension on them. Then, you pull more tension on the later passes, where the hanger attaches, to make a solid, stable bundle. This effectively collects the skin, and prevents pinching.

        Use the least amount of wrap, possible , at the attachment point, to meet those criteria. But cut your wrap longer, to go through the trial and error process of seeing how many passes of wrap you need in the attachment zone. Also, you can wrap any excess behind the hanger attachment area.

        Wrap instructions:


        You have a stretching hand, left or right, and a wrapping hand, left or right.

        Stretch out the penis, grasping the head and pulling straight out. Then smooth the skin back toward the base. While still stretched out, start your wrap, pinning the leading edge of the wrap between your stretching fingers (middle finger and ring finger), and your shaft. Start a half inch to 1.25 inches from the coronal ridge, depending on overall length.

        Make your first pass of wrap around, and then a second about an eighth inch down from the first. Many guys like a third close pass at the top. Then grasp those first passes of wrap and the shaft firmly with your wrapping hand, at the top of the passes, and transfer your stretching grip from the head, to those first passes of wrap, and continue the stretch.

        Then grasp the loose skin, and tug it back toward the base, all around the shaft. This should pull out any wrinkled skin under those first passes of wrap.


        While still stretching out the shaft, make another pass, perhaps a quarter to a half inch down from the original passes. Transfer your stretching grip to the top of the new pass of wrap, holding the wrap and shaft in tandem. Then again tug the skin back toward the base. Continue making passes and tugging the skin back toward the base. When you finish, the skin under the wrap should be wrinkle free.

        You need to attach about a quarter inch further back toward the base, from the leading edge of the wrap. The hanger is too close to the head in the hanging picture.

        You need to establish a bigger gap between head and hanger with your left thumb, as you go through the tightening process. Hold down with your left thumb between head and hanger, as you lift up on the hanger with your left palm, as you tighten the hanger with your right hand.

        Fix all that and send another set of pics, as you did this last time.


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        • #34
          Thanks, Bigger. I'm not sure what kind of wrap it is; it some wrap I had from physical therapy. I got some theraband wraps today so I'll be using that instead.

          I'll send over new pictures when I get the chance.

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          • #35
            Update: Recently got covid. Still hanging everyday, splitting sets into two every couple of hours (6 sets total a day). My wrapping and technique has changed substantially. I haven't sent the pictures yet, but my wrap looks relatively similar to Sappy1's pictures. Once the sickness subsides, I'll send off the new pictures.

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            • #36
              qwerty12,

              >Update: Recently got covid. Still hanging everyday, splitting sets into two every couple of hours (6 sets total a day). My wrapping and technique has changed substantially. I haven't sent the pictures yet, but my wrap looks relatively similar to Sappy1's pictures. Once the sickness subsides, I'll send off the new pictures.<

              Get better. I had a hard time with that crap. Do not take chances.

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              • #37
                Hey Bigger,

                Just sent two updated pics of the wrap and the attachment point. Currently trying to go for DDS (skin started tearing again, so I figured I need more skin). I start at 5.5 pounds, skin starts tearing a bit and it just burns. After the first set, I drop the weight down to 3 pounds. Skin still feels a slight burning sensation, but it's very manageable. Is this the proper approach to DDS/managing the fatigue for skin?

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                • #38
                  qwerty,

                  >Here are two updated pics of wrapping and the attachment. For the attachment, that's specifically when I am trying to do skin stretching. If I'm doing a normal attachment, the hanger is closer to the middle of the shift. Right now, I'm trying to do DDS, but my skin is tearing (as you can see at the base). Skin tearing was happening at 5.5, so I start at 5.5 pounds. Whether it's fatigue or not, it's rather uncomfortable to have skin tear, so I drop the weight afterwards to 3 pounds for the remainder. My last set is usually the normal set at 5.5 pounds, but it still hurts my skin. Any advice? Thanks as always.<


                  If the skin is actually tearing, blood etc, then you are attaching too far back toward the base. From these pics, I would say you need to move the attachment point a half inch or more forward to limit the amount of skin stress.

                  Then for the tears, you need to use Neosporin with lidocaine. Keep it on the tears till they heal. It will reduce pain as well

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                  • #39
                    Moving the hanger a half inch up is my normal attachment range. Should my normal attachment range be higher, then?

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                    • #40
                      qwerty12,

                      >Moving the hanger a half inch up is my normal attachment range. Should my normal attachment range be higher, then?<

                      Your normal attachment range should be a good bit closer to the head.

                      For DSS, the attachment point should not be as far back as in your pictures. That is overkill. Not tightening enough to grasp the internals will cause the skin stress.

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                      • #41
                        Thanks, Bigger. Another question: What does fatigue feel like for a dedicated skin stretch? The weight I'm using is comfortable. I feel like a very, very, very mild burning sensation on the skin, but my skin hasn't really stretched or anything.

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                        • #42
                          qwerty12,

                          > What does fatigue feel like for a dedicated skin stretch? The weight I'm using is comfortable. I feel like a very, very, very mild burning sensation on the skin, but my skin hasn't really stretched or anything<

                          You should feel a burning sensation in the skin. IF it is that mild then you probably are not doing much. Either move your attachment point back a bit again, increase the weight, or loosen the hanger a bit more. I cannot tell you which one you need to do. You will have to figure that out.

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                          • #43
                            Bigger,

                            I have finally stretched my skin, although I might have stretched a bit more than I wanted to.

                            I am now hanging for gains, but I wanted to clarify some things:

                            1. When I hang for gains, the extra skin seems to fold on itself at the head. So if you imagine a regular penis with foreskin that covers the head, imagine that foreskin kind of folding in on itself over over the head when hanging with weight. It doesn't cause discomfort, but I'm curious if this is a sign I need to tug more skin back as I wrap.

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                            • #44
                              qwerty12,

                              >1. When I hang for gains, the extra skin seems to fold on itself at the head. So if you imagine a regular penis with foreskin that covers the head, imagine that foreskin kind of folding in on itself over over the head when hanging with weight. It doesn't cause discomfort, but I'm curious if this is a sign I need to tug more skin back as I wrap.<

                              It depends on how much goes over the head. It is not unusual for the skin to cover the coronal ridge. But if it is more than that, you probably need to do a better job of grasping the internals when you tighten.

                              That assumes you are not trying to restore the foreskin.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bib View Post
                                qwerty12,

                                >1. When I hang for gains, the extra skin seems to fold on itself at the head. So if you imagine a regular penis with foreskin that covers the head, imagine that foreskin kind of folding in on itself over over the head when hanging with weight. It doesn't cause discomfort, but I'm curious if this is a sign I need to tug more skin back as I wrap.<

                                It depends on how much goes over the head. It is not unusual for the skin to cover the coronal ridge. But if it is more than that, you probably need to do a better job of grasping the internals when you tighten.

                                That assumes you are not trying to restore the foreskin.

                                Bigger
                                Got it. Is the general rule of thumb for grasping internals to tighten more slowly?

                                The foreskin practically covers the whole head besides the tip of it. The foreskin essentially rolls in on itself and covers 4/5 of the head.

                                Also, is it possible to still stretch skin but not feel a burning sensation at surface skin of the base? I ask because I want to ensure I'm creating extra foreskin for myself. The sensation I have these days is not burning; my shaft is certainly very tender to the touch, especially as I tighten for subsequent rounds of hanging. Sometimes, the shaft is pretty sore itself. I do feel some slight inner sensations on the side of the shaft near the base.

                                Currently hanging at 7.2; some days it feels like a lot and I need to drop the weight about 14 minutes in. I have a feeling I am doing something wrong, though, because it's both my shaft and slightly my base that cannot take the weight any longer. Other times, 7.2 pounds feels pretty good. I totally expect some fluctuations in my max weight, but I want to ensure I'm not just getting attachment discomfort as the source of why I drop the weight, especially if this kind of discomfort isn't considered fatigue.
                                Last edited by qwerty12; 08-03-2022, 06:31 PM.

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