Log + Questions regarding attaching hanger

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>I see. But in terms of just regular BTC hanging without lessening the angles, is it fine? I can switch to an office chair for my next set to lessen the angle.<

I have no idea. I never did it, and do not know how you would do it. For my bed, there would be too much stuff in the way. If you can do it in later sets, I have no idea why you would not do it in the first set.

Bigger

[qwerty12]

qwerty12,

>I see. But in terms of just regular BTC hanging without lessening the angles, is it fine? I can switch to an office chair for my next set to lessen the angle.<

I have no idea. I never did it, and do not know how you would do it. For my bed, there would be too much stuff in the way. If you can do it in later sets, I have no idea why you would not do it in the first set.

Bigger

Gotcha. I'll just move to my chair.

In your experience, whenever you had a skin injury near the base/bottom of shaft, and you started hanging normally in the regular attachment zone, did you usually feel a strain? I'm assuming that most guys who hang after a skin injury still feel some strain on the skin that has healed up. For me, the healed skin starts to take more of a strain as the set finishes (whether that's with 5 pounds or 2.5 pounds, the weight doesn't really matter). Any kind of insight here? Is this just a sign my skin is still healing and needs more time to become tougher? It's kind of hard to distinguish whether my skin is just taking most of the stress and therefore stretching skin or if it's just my skin reacting as it's not tough/stronger yet.

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>In your experience, whenever you had a skin injury near the base/bottom of shaft, and you started hanging normally in the regular attachment zone, did you usually feel a strain?<

I felt a strain all the time. Sometimes more than others. I managed the fatigue by reducing or increasing weight, or the angle of hang.

>I'm assuming that most guys who hang after a skin injury still feel some strain on the skin that has healed up. <

I hope so.

>For me, the healed skin starts to take more of a strain as the set finishes (whether that's with 5 pounds or 2.5 pounds, the weight doesn't really matter). Any kind of insight here?<

Lessen the angle of hang.

>Is this just a sign my skin is still healing and needs more time to become tougher?<

Perhaps. You just need to learn to manage all of this, and get your sets in.

>It's kind of hard to distinguish whether my skin is just taking most of the stress and therefore stretching skin or if it's just my skin reacting as it's not tough/stronger yet.<

It could be either. You may need dedicated skin stretch. Or perhaps your normal attachment point is too close to the base. Or you lack conditioning. All of it can be managed with weight management or angle of hang management.

Bigger

[qwerty12]

Hey Bigger,

I've progressed up to 18 pounds now, but am struggling a bit with the wrap and skin on the left and right side of my shaft. My skin at the base has fully healed and it can take a good amount of stress. I'm hanging for gains now, but when I wrap and hang at 18 pounds, the left and right sides of my shaft start burning. It sort of feels like a rug burn? Wondering if you had this experience when hanging. I never used to have this issue, but at around 15 pounds, it started happening. There are no visible marks of strain or anything when I unwrap to check the sides of my shaft. The rug burn sensation happens once I put the weight on and it occurs closer to the turkey neck portion of the skin that connects the shaft to the scrotum. I do pull back my skin when I wrap. Guess I might just be wrapping incorrectly now?

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>I've progressed up to 18 pounds now, but am struggling a bit with the wrap and skin on the left and right side of my shaft. My skin at the base has fully healed and it can take a good amount of stress. I'm hanging for gains now, but when I wrap and hang at 18 pounds, the left and right sides of my shaft start burning. It sort of feels like a rug burn? Wondering if you had this experience when hanging. <

Sure. I stretched many inches of skin when hanging for gains. I liked to get it over with, stretching more than needed at any one time, then stretching internals. So back and forth, a few days skin stretch, then many days internals.

You can massage it, which helps, and use a triple antibiotic with lidocaine. Not too much though.

>I never used to have this issue, but at around 15 pounds, it started happening. There are no visible marks of strain or anything when I unwrap to check the sides of my shaft. <

At some point, you should have stretch marks.

>The rug burn sensation happens once I put the weight on and it occurs closer to the turkey neck portion of the skin that connects the shaft to the scrotum. I do pull back my skin when I wrap. Guess I might just be wrapping incorrectly now?<

I have no idea. You could be. But the burning sensation from skin stretch, if it is skin stretch, is normal.

Bigger

[qwerty12]

qwerty12,

>I've progressed up to 18 pounds now, but am struggling a bit with the wrap and skin on the left and right side of my shaft. My skin at the base has fully healed and it can take a good amount of stress. I'm hanging for gains now, but when I wrap and hang at 18 pounds, the left and right sides of my shaft start burning. It sort of feels like a rug burn? Wondering if you had this experience when hanging. <

Sure. I stretched many inches of skin when hanging for gains. I liked to get it over with, stretching more than needed at any one time, then stretching internals. So back and forth, a few days skin stretch, then many days internals.

You can massage it, which helps, and use a triple antibiotic with lidocaine. Not too much though.

>I never used to have this issue, but at around 15 pounds, it started happening. There are no visible marks of strain or anything when I unwrap to check the sides of my shaft. <

At some point, you should have stretch marks.

>The rug burn sensation happens once I put the weight on and it occurs closer to the turkey neck portion of the skin that connects the shaft to the scrotum. I do pull back my skin when I wrap. Guess I might just be wrapping incorrectly now?<

I have no idea. You could be. But the burning sensation from skin stretch, if it is skin stretch, is normal.

Bigger

But isn't a sign that you need to stretch skin is if the base of the skin is tight? My shaft skin and base skin isn't tight. The attachment point skin area is where the rug burn happens. I don't think I need to stretch skin because it's actually quite comfortable everywhere except at the attachment point.

I suppose it might be the material of the wrap? I use the theraband wrap, but it gets kind of rubbery and sticky after a while. And because of that, it just sort of drags and sticks on the shaft skin.

I should add that the skin rug burn sensation is only when I initially attach the weight too. The intensity of the rug burn sensation lessens after a minute or two of hanging. I can still feel a dry skin tugging sensation, but it's not as intense as the first two minutes. The first minutes is just painful once the weight is on. After my set is over, the skin is really sensitive, akin to a rug burn sensation after the rug burn is over. Any insight on this phenomenon assuming it's not skin stretching?

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>But isn't a sign that you need to stretch skin is if the base of the skin is tight? My shaft skin and base skin isn't tight.<

Then it is most probably ligs and\or tunica.

>The attachment point skin area is where the rug burn happens. I don't think I need to stretch skin because it's actually quite comfortable everywhere except at the attachment point.<

IF it is under the hanger, then your hanger is not tight enough, causing slippage and thus friction on the skin.

>I suppose it might be the material of the wrap? I use the theraband wrap, but it gets kind of rubbery and sticky after a while. And because of that, it just sort of drags and sticks on the shaft skin.<

If the hanger is tight enough to provide a solid attachment, there should be zero friction. The wrap should not move across the skin.

>I should add that the skin rug burn sensation is only when I initially attach the weight too. The intensity of the rug burn sensation lessens after a minute or two of hanging. I can still feel a dry skin tugging sensation, but it's not as intense as the first two minutes. The first minutes is just painful once the weight is on. After my set is over, the skin is really sensitive, akin to a rug burn sensation after the rug burn is over. Any insight on this phenomenon assuming it's not skin stretching?<

The only thing I can think of is friction from the hanger being too loose.

Bigger

[qwerty12]

qwerty12,

>But isn't a sign that you need to stretch skin is if the base of the skin is tight? My shaft skin and base skin isn't tight.<

Then it is most probably ligs and\or tunica.

>The attachment point skin area is where the rug burn happens. I don't think I need to stretch skin because it's actually quite comfortable everywhere except at the attachment point.<

IF it is under the hanger, then your hanger is not tight enough, causing slippage and thus friction on the skin.

>I suppose it might be the material of the wrap? I use the theraband wrap, but it gets kind of rubbery and sticky after a while. And because of that, it just sort of drags and sticks on the shaft skin.<

If the hanger is tight enough to provide a solid attachment, there should be zero friction. The wrap should not move across the skin.

>I should add that the skin rug burn sensation is only when I initially attach the weight too. The intensity of the rug burn sensation lessens after a minute or two of hanging. I can still feel a dry skin tugging sensation, but it's not as intense as the first two minutes. The first minutes is just painful once the weight is on. After my set is over, the skin is really sensitive, akin to a rug burn sensation after the rug burn is over. Any insight on this phenomenon assuming it's not skin stretching?<

The only thing I can think of is friction from the hanger being too loose.

Bigger

Gotcha. I'll tighten more on my next set tomorrow and see how it goes. Seems to always happen on set 4.

[qwerty12]

Still getting the rug burn effect, even tighting to the max. It's always on set 4. Set 4 starts out intense with the rug burn, almost burning. Then cools down 5 minutes in and the rest of the set goes as normal.

Another question: when you do reach fatigue, is the base sore normally for a couple of hours after you finish your sets?

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>Still getting the rug burn effect, even tighting to the max. It's always on set 4. Set 4 starts out intense with the rug burn, almost burning. Then cools down 5 minutes in and the rest of the set goes as normal.<

Be sure your wrapping, WFG, and your hanger adjustments, are set for the later sets, and not the first set. Then, your first sets, the top gap may be a bit wide. That is ok. It should not be too much.

>Another question: when you do reach fatigue, is the base sore normally for a couple of hours after you finish your sets?<

Yes. To the touch for much longer. I had many days where it never stopped being sore to the touch.

Bigger

[qwerty12]

qwerty12,

>Still getting the rug burn effect, even tighting to the max. It's always on set 4. Set 4 starts out intense with the rug burn, almost burning. Then cools down 5 minutes in and the rest of the set goes as normal.<

Be sure your wrapping, WFG, and your hanger adjustments, are set for the later sets, and not the first set. Then, your first sets, the top gap may be a bit wide. That is ok. It should not be too much.

>Another question: when you do reach fatigue, is the base sore normally for a couple of hours after you finish your sets?<

Yes. To the touch for much longer. I had many days where it never stopped being sore to the touch.

Bigger

I see. It seems that my fatigue has gone away, even at this new weight. I might just be hanging incorrectly at this new weight. Most my my strain is just from skin on the shafts, not even at the base. My wraps are for WFG, but by set 3, I notice that my WFG starts to change, so I find myself having to rewrap. In any case, if I do or don't rewrap, I still get the same rug burn effect.

I'm tempted to just stretch skin for a week and see what happens. There was a point where the shaft skin started to tear, which was different from my previous tear on my base. It went away really quickly, but that area on the shaft is still sensitive to the touch in a burning sensation type of way.

[qwerty12]

Alright, did some more testing. Could it be this is attachment fatigue? What defines attachment fatigue? One I attach the weight, my base is fine. Ligs feel it. But it's solely the skin at the attachment point that feels an insane amount of discomfort/burning, and it is ALWAYS by set 4. I suppose I could split my sets up again to 3 in the day and 3 in the night, but I just wanted more clarity on what attachment fatigue really is.

My hanger adjustments, tightness, etc, are all fine.

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>Alright, did some more testing. Could it be this is attachment fatigue? What defines attachment fatigue?<

Discomfort. Either from increased tightening, increased weight used, or poor technique.

>My hanger adjustments, tightness, etc, are all fine.<

As you move up in weight, you must refine your technique. How do you know everything is fine?

Bigger

[qwerty12]

qwerty12,

>Alright, did some more testing. Could it be this is attachment fatigue? What defines attachment fatigue?<

Discomfort. Either from increased tightening, increased weight used, or poor technique.

>My hanger adjustments, tightness, etc, are all fine.<

As you move up in weight, you must refine your technique. How do you know everything is fine?

Bigger

My assumption was that because this happens at set 4, something changes that causes discomfort, but all else, being that of my the adjustments and tightness, remains the same.

[Bib]

qwerty12,

>My assumption was that because this happens at set 4, something changes that causes discomfort, but all else, being that of my the adjustments and tightness, remains the same.<

You must be sure your wrap and hanger adjustments are set up for the later sets, not the first sets. Then the next day, the top gap will be a bit wide for the first set. That is ok.

Bigger