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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >In your experience, whenever you had a skin injury near the base/bottom of shaft, and you started hanging normally in the regular attachment zone, did you usually feel a strain?<

    I felt a strain all the time. Sometimes more than others. I managed the fatigue by reducing or increasing weight, or the angle of hang.

    >I'm assuming that most guys who hang after a skin injury still feel some strain on the skin that has healed up. <

    I hope so.

    >For me, the healed skin starts to take more of a strain as the set finishes (whether that's with 5 pounds or 2.5 pounds, the weight doesn't really matter). Any kind of insight here?<

    Lessen the angle of hang.

    >Is this just a sign my skin is still healing and needs more time to become tougher?<

    Perhaps. You just need to learn to manage all of this, and get your sets in.

    >It's kind of hard to distinguish whether my skin is just taking most of the stress and therefore stretching skin or if it's just my skin reacting as it's not tough/stronger yet.<

    It could be either. You may need dedicated skin stretch. Or perhaps your normal attachment point is too close to the base. Or you lack conditioning. All of it can be managed with weight management or angle of hang management.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Originally posted by Bib View Post
    qwerty12,

    >I see. But in terms of just regular BTC hanging without lessening the angles, is it fine? I can switch to an office chair for my next set to lessen the angle.<

    I have no idea. I never did it, and do not know how you would do it. For my bed, there would be too much stuff in the way. If you can do it in later sets, I have no idea why you would not do it in the first set.

    Bigger
    Gotcha. I'll just move to my chair.

    In your experience, whenever you had a skin injury near the base/bottom of shaft, and you started hanging normally in the regular attachment zone, did you usually feel a strain? I'm assuming that most guys who hang after a skin injury still feel some strain on the skin that has healed up. For me, the healed skin starts to take more of a strain as the set finishes (whether that's with 5 pounds or 2.5 pounds, the weight doesn't really matter). Any kind of insight here? Is this just a sign my skin is still healing and needs more time to become tougher? It's kind of hard to distinguish whether my skin is just taking most of the stress and therefore stretching skin or if it's just my skin reacting as it's not tough/stronger yet.

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >I see. But in terms of just regular BTC hanging without lessening the angles, is it fine? I can switch to an office chair for my next set to lessen the angle.<

    I have no idea. I never did it, and do not know how you would do it. For my bed, there would be too much stuff in the way. If you can do it in later sets, I have no idea why you would not do it in the first set.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Originally posted by Bib View Post
    qwerty12,

    >When you adjust your angles in BTC, are you generally just positioning your back at different angles? I don't use a chair or anything. I just lay straight down on the bed with my feet propped up to do BTC.<

    That probably is not good. To lessen the angle of hang while sitting or being comfortable, you need to hang with the skids of the hanger on a hard edge.

    I hung sitting in an executive office chair, with a PVC half pipe tied to the front edge of the chair.

    You cannot do that on a bed. The hanger skids will just dig into the bed.

    You can get a used office chair cheap on craigslist, ebay, etc.

    Bigger
    I see. But in terms of just regular BTC hanging without lessening the angles, is it fine? I can switch to an office chair for my next set to lessen the angle.

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >When you adjust your angles in BTC, are you generally just positioning your back at different angles? I don't use a chair or anything. I just lay straight down on the bed with my feet propped up to do BTC.<

    That probably is not good. To lessen the angle of hang while sitting or being comfortable, you need to hang with the skids of the hanger on a hard edge.

    I hung sitting in an executive office chair, with a PVC half pipe tied to the front edge of the chair.

    You cannot do that on a bed. The hanger skids will just dig into the bed.

    You can get a used office chair cheap on craigslist, ebay, etc.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Got it, thanks, Bigger!

    I think today in particular was just one of those off-days where my skin was extra sensitive (wasn't earlier in the week). Or because the past couple of days it managed to fatigue me to this point. Assuming the latter.

    When you adjust your angles in BTC, are you generally just positioning your back at different angles? I don't use a chair or anything. I just lay straight down on the bed with my feet propped up to do BTC.

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >Quick question about moving up in weight after a recovered injury. It seems that hanging at about 5 pounds for 6 sets puts some more strain on the injured part of my skin. The skin isn't ripping or anything, but it does get red rather quickly after hanging normally (not stretching skin or anything). That is, if I hang and attach at the normal range, the healed part of my skin turns more red and seems to take more of the strain. I'm trying to work up back to my previous weight and condition soft tissue, but I'm not sure how to continue working up in weight if the healed part of my skin continues to have a slight burning/strain sensation at 5 pounds. I fear that moving up to 6 pounds+ will just rip the skin open again.<

    Well, it might. But generally, the skin or almost any bodily tissue will get stronger in the area that is deformed. The thing is, you do not know what might happen. But that is no reason not to go for your goals. I would lay out a stress progression based on your attachment point, then follow it.

    If any area gets to much stress and you cannot handle it, then reduce the angle of hang. So if BTC is causing too much stress, reduce to SD, or somewhere in between.

    >Any advice? Should I switch to SD, and if so, is it common to then go back to BTC once things feel more or less normal?<

    You can hang either or both. When my skin was too sore, I would reduce the angle of hang. There are ninety degrees difference between BTC and SD. Sometimes it does not take much of a reduction to take stress off of the skin. So it is not a matter of BTC or SD. Use whatever you need to get your sets in, and recondition your attachment point. Manage the fatigue.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Hey Bigger,

    Quick question about moving up in weight after a recovered injury. It seems that hanging at about 5 pounds for 6 sets puts some more strain on the injured part of my skin. The skin isn't ripping or anything, but it does get red rather quickly after hanging normally (not stretching skin or anything). That is, if I hang and attach at the normal range, the healed part of my skin turns more red and seems to take more of the strain. I'm trying to work up back to my previous weight and condition soft tissue, but I'm not sure how to continue working up in weight if the healed part of my skin continues to have a slight burning/strain sensation at 5 pounds. I fear that moving up to 6 pounds+ will just rip the skin open again.

    I put vaseline on the healed part of my skin pretty much daily (both when I am hanging and when I am not). I do 6 sets, 3 in the morning and 3 at night. Currently at 5 pounds. Hanging BTC. Attaching at normal range, not stretching skin.

    Any advice? Should I switch to SD, and if so, is it common to then go back to BTC once things feel more or less normal?

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >So my skin has fully healed, but whenever I do hang, it is consistently red (the pink hue is where the rips once where). I'm assuming you've had this issue many times in the past during your hanging experience. Any tips of ensuring the red/pink hue of the healed tissue goes away?<

    Keep living. It will continue to heal, and eventually disappear. It is a process that your body has probably been through many times, depending on your age. You get an injury, you heal.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    So my skin has fully healed, but whenever I do hang, it is consistently red (the pink hue is where the rips once where). I'm assuming you've had this issue many times in the past during your hanging experience. Any tips of ensuring the red/pink hue of the healed tissue goes away?

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >Gotcha, that makes sense. So it's basically ensuring that the hanger itself is not hanging down; it's more so that the weight itself is hanging down while the hanger is still propped up by something. Is that correct?<

    Yes.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Originally posted by Bib View Post
    qwerty12,

    >For SO, would it be as simple as attaching the weight (let's say 5 pounds), and then sitting on my bed with the hanger just straight out lying on the bed? So my body position at the waist would be 90 degrees, and then the hanger just extends straight out on the bed?<

    If you were standing up, straight out from your body would be SO.

    I sat in my office chair with a PVC half pipe tied to the front edge of my chair. Then I sat far enough back so the skids of the hanger rode on the half pipe, with the weights hanging down.

    Bigger
    Gotcha, that makes sense. So it's basically ensuring that the hanger itself is not hanging down; it's more so that the weight itself is hanging down while the hanger is still propped up by something. Is that correct?

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >For SO, would it be as simple as attaching the weight (let's say 5 pounds), and then sitting on my bed with the hanger just straight out lying on the bed? So my body position at the waist would be 90 degrees, and then the hanger just extends straight out on the bed?<

    If you were standing up, straight out from your body would be SO.

    I sat in my office chair with a PVC half pipe tied to the front edge of my chair. Then I sat far enough back so the skids of the hanger rode on the half pipe, with the weights hanging down.

    Bigger

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  • qwerty12
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    Originally posted by Bib View Post
    qwerty12,

    >Update on the skin tear: while it's been healing as I put triple antibiotic, it's still open. I've lowered my weight pretty substantially (down to a 1.5 pounds). The wound is red. Wondering what I should be doing here because it's been several weeks and this wound just won't closely entirely.<

    I never took that long to heal with any of my skin tears. IF you have not hung significant weight in several weeks, then you will most probably have to stop altogether to allow it to heal completely. Doubtful that you are preserving much soft tissue conditioning at 1.5 lbs anyway.

    Having said that, when you start back, you will have to start at five lbs or less. I would not speculate about what might happen, but the area may be weak for an extended period, and open back up if you stress it too much.

    Another option is to hang SO, so that you can maintain or gain soft tissue conditioning, and put less or no strain on the base skin.

    I cannot remember if you have sent me technique pictures, but you might do that I might see something wrong, like the hanger not grasping the internals, etc.

    Bigger
    Hi Bigger,

    I was hanging about 11 pounds maybe 8 days ago now? I moved a bit too aggressively, and since then I've gone down to 1.5 pounds.

    For SO, would it be as simple as attaching the weight (let's say 5 pounds), and then sitting on my bed with the hanger just straight out lying on the bed? So my body position at the waist would be 90 degrees, and then the hanger just extends straight out on the bed?

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  • Bib
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    qwerty12,

    >Update on the skin tear: while it's been healing as I put triple antibiotic, it's still open. I've lowered my weight pretty substantially (down to a 1.5 pounds). The wound is red. Wondering what I should be doing here because it's been several weeks and this wound just won't closely entirely.<

    I never took that long to heal with any of my skin tears. IF you have not hung significant weight in several weeks, then you will most probably have to stop altogether to allow it to heal completely. Doubtful that you are preserving much soft tissue conditioning at 1.5 lbs anyway.

    Having said that, when you start back, you will have to start at five lbs or less. I would not speculate about what might happen, but the area may be weak for an extended period, and open back up if you stress it too much.

    Another option is to hang SO, so that you can maintain or gain soft tissue conditioning, and put less or no strain on the base skin.

    I cannot remember if you have sent me technique pictures, but you might do that I might see something wrong, like the hanger not grasping the internals, etc.

    Bigger

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