Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

[Bib]

E,

>Well I feel something hard, I think it is my septum, because I don't think it can be my CS? It's in between the CCs from the top of the penis.<

Yes, if it is hard, that is probably the septum.

>Also would you still hit the septum like that, doing OTS?<

Yes, you will hit the bottom of the septum, in almost any guy using a fulcrum OTS. But it may not be enough to produce gains in many guys. If you had a distinct downward curve, it would hit more of the septum, or rather have more of an impact on the septum.

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[Eclipse]

E,

>Well I feel something hard, I think it is my septum, because I don't think it can be my CS? It's in between the CCs from the top of the penis.<

Yes, if it is hard, that is probably the septum.

>Also would you still hit the septum like that, doing OTS?<

Yes, you will hit the bottom of the septum, in almost any guy using a fulcrum OTS. But it may not be enough to produce gains in many guys. If you had a distinct downward curve, it would hit more of the septum, or rather have more of an impact on the septum.

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Bigger,

What about at more of a side angle, say at about a 2 0'clock or half past two angle, what are we hitting then, close to the sides of the septum?

thanks,

E.

[Bib]

E,

Yes, I found that if I turned the hanger about 45 degrees, either side, I could get a different stretch, on the sides of each tunica, and somewhat on the sides of the septum.

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[Kar]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

Couldn't one just use a nappy paint roller instead?

[Bib]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

Kar,

Many guys have used many different things as a fulcrum over the years. That is not the issue. The shape and consistancy of the RSDT fulcrum allows it to do some great things that have not been produced before using a fulcrum.

A paint roller would not be much different than a wooden dowel, and would not do what the RSDT fulcrum does.

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[Eclipse]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

I don't think people still don't understand the importance of the valley and the CS with this, nobody at Thunders questioned this or at MOS.

thanks,

E.

[Bib]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

E,

And probably more important, the size and shape of the fucrum, pushing back into the butt or inner thighs, and the back of the skids of the hanger pushing into the fulcrum.

There lies the key to the dual fulcrum action.

Always remember, there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Some people simply do not want to know what they do not know.

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[Eclipse]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

E,

And probably more important, the size and shape of the fucrum, pushing back into the butt or inner thighs, and the back of the skids of the hanger pushing into the fulcrum.

There lies the key to the dual fulcrum action.

Always remember, there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Some people simply do not want to know what they do not know.

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Bigger,

Hmm yeah, well I'm sure glad I stuck with it, I guess the future is looking bright and everybody is gonna learn how to do this properly when you final finish the Fulcrum device.

I have probably got some tweaking to do with size now that I have the CS sorted, I must have made more than 20

thanks,

E.

[Bib]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

E,

>I guess the future is looking bright and everybody is gonna learn how to do this properly when you final finish the Fulcrum device.<

I would hope they would learn properly with the RSDT fulcrum. Why not? They may be very old by the time my fulcrum is ready. In fact, it may never be ready.

>I have probably got some tweaking to do with size now that I have the CS sorted, I must have made more than 20<

Twenty? Twenty new ones? Can't you just rework the previous models? Making them bigger is not a problem. Just duct tape something to the bottom or the back side.

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[Eclipse]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

E,

>I guess the future is looking bright and everybody is gonna learn how to do this properly when you final finish the Fulcrum device.<

I would hope they would learn properly with the RSDT fulcrum. Why not? They may be very old by the time my fulcrum is ready. In fact, it may never be ready.

>I have probably got some tweaking to do with size now that I have the CS sorted, I must have made more than 20<

Twenty? Twenty new ones? Can't you just rework the previous models? Making them bigger is not a problem. Just duct tape something to the bottom or the back side.

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Bigger,

I was not getting the double fulcrum action happing properly, I have it on a little stool instead of it being on my chair, so sometimes it would not ride against my inner thighs or buttocks.

Making 20 was because I was trying to get the valley and anything right.

thanks,

E.

[Yssupforetae]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

I think I am having the same problem as you, E, or from what I think it sounds like. I think I need my rice sock bigger/"taller" so that I can get a better bend in my shaft. I have tried putting things underneath to lift it higher, like weight plates, but it does not seem to do the trick. My chair is a cushion chair, so when I apply the weights to my hanger and it hangs over the rice sock, the skids still ride on the hard/plastic piece of the rice sock, but the front corners of the hanger will be touching the chair after a bit because of it sinking into the chair from the weight. I still feel fatigue,however it is not until later into the set....like 10-15 minutes in. And I am able to do the same amount of weights every hang. Maybe I need to just go up in weight, but I am currently at 21.25, and I thought you do not need that much weight for this angle. As I have said before, my BPFSL seems to be gaining, just not my EL.....yet.

[Eclipse]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

Well what I have learnt, is that the rice sock must all ways be firmly touching the inner thighs or buttocks. It's must easier to make a rice sock where the CCs balance on the sides and the CS does not touch anything. This just means making the valley narrow, making it pretty deep, as much as 2 inchs or maybe a little less.

I find a stool to be more convenient to have the rice sock on at the moment, but you may find it might not touch the inner thighs or buttocks, so you have to make sure that it does. I need to make a rice sock and experiment with it being just on my chair and compare at some stage.

[Bib]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

JH,

>My chair is a cushion chair, so when I apply the weights to my hanger and it hangs over the rice sock, the skids still ride on the hard/plastic piece of the rice sock, but the front corners of the hanger will be touching the chair after a bit because of it sinking into the chair from the weight.<

This is wrong, and misses the benefit of the RSDT fulcrum completely.

You cannot be starting out with the hanger sticking straight out if it ends up on the chair.

Your fulcrum obviously needs to be a lot bigger.

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[Yssupforetae]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

Yes, I knew/know my rice sock needs be bigger/taller. But I have seemed to be able to make it work by placing a couple of my weight plates underneath the rice sock. That lifts the sock higher, enabling the front skids to ride higher off the chair. The fatigue is great, even was when I wasn't using the weight plates to lift it.

On another note, I have been trying something new...sort of, I think. You know how when you have your dick wrapped, it is almost at the FSL(flacid stretched length), but you can still pull your dick out a bit further to its full FSL. I have tried pulling my dick out all the way, when wrapped, and then wrapping that extra part at the base so that it is at it's complete FSL when hanging. Today is my first day of attempting this, so I don't know if there will be any extra benefits from it. I did, however, go to bed last night with "just" that bottom part of my dick wrapped. It didn't seem to cut off any circulation down there, so it felt fine.

[Bib]

Re: Rice sock, duct tape fulcrum

JH,

>Yes, I knew/know my rice sock needs be bigger/taller. But I have seemed to be able to make it work by placing a couple of my weight plates underneath the rice sock. That lifts the sock higher, enabling the front skids to ride higher off the chair. The fatigue is great, even was when I wasn't using the weight plates to lift it.<

I am sure the fatigue is great because of the bend in the RS placing the force on the septum. But you are missing a great advantage, the other fulcrum. The hanger should not point down. The skids should not come close to the chair seat. Make your fulcrum taller.

>On another note, I have been trying something new...sort of, I think. You know how when you have your dick wrapped, it is almost at the FSL(flacid stretched length), but you can still pull your dick out a bit further to its full FSL. I have tried pulling my dick out all the way, when wrapped, and then wrapping that extra part at the base so that it is at it's complete FSL when hanging. Today is my first day of attempting this, so I don't know if there will be any extra benefits from it. I did, however, go to bed last night with "just" that bottom part of my dick wrapped. It didn't seem to cut off any circulation down there, so it felt fine.<

As long as you realize that you are taking a risk that is not needed. You will probably notice fluid buildup that will make hanging uncomfortable, a stinging sensation in the skin.

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